Justin talks about how women are second class people in the Mormon church.
Women as Second-Class Members: Examining Authority, Covenant Language, and Institutional Change in the LDS Church
For decades, Latter-day Saint women have navigated a fundamental tension within their faith: the church's official teachings about gender equality have often conflicted with historical doctrine and lived institutional reality. Recent discussions on platforms like the Mormon Stories Podcast have brought this friction into sharper focus, with former and current members articulating how women experience a structurally subordinate position within the LDS organizational hierarchy. Understanding this critique requires examining both what the church currently teaches about women's roles and what historical sources reveal about how those teachings developed, and what they meant in practice.
The question matters because it touches on core theological claims about eternity, authority, and divine order. When members, particularly women, experience dissonance between equality rhetoric and institutional practice, faith itself becomes complicated. This editorial explores the documented record, acknowledges the church's recent clarifications, and asks whether structural changes have meaningfully addressed the underlying theological architecture that positioned women as secondary participants in God's plan.
The Covenant Language Problem: Historical Doctrine and Its Lingering Effects
The critique Justin raises on Mormon Stories centers on historically explicit covenant language. Until very recently, LDS women in the temple endowment ceremony covenanted to "obey" their husbands, while men covenanted to obey God. This asymmetry carried profound implications: it positioned wives as intermediaries in a hierarchy rather than as direct covenant-makers with the divine.
The official LDS Church changed this language in 2019, replacing "obey" with "hearken," which denotes listening rather than submission. According to church leadership, this modification aligned the covenant language more closely with scriptural principles of partnership. However, critics and many members note that changing words in a ritual does not automatically resolve the underlying theological framework that produced such language in the first place.