Gay Mormon Rescue? Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty | Ep. 1721

The Cultural Intersection of Faith and Identity in the LDS Church: A Lens on Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty

The debate over the intersection of faith and LGBTQ+ identity in the Mormon community has reached a new chapter with Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty openly sharing their experiences. On episode 1721 of the Mormon Stories Podcast, Bird and Schilaty explore the complex and sensitive subject of being both gay and members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). Their discussion resonates with many as it challenges long-standing church doctrines and highlights the personal struggles faced by LGBTQ+ Mormons.

The perceived clash between one's faith and sexual orientation has long been a topic of contention within the LDS Church. Historically, the church's stance has often been rigid, with teachings discouraging same-sex relationships. However, notable efforts to address these issues can be traced back to the 2010 "Swedish Rescue," where church leaders engaged with Swedish members to address pressing issues, some of which related to LGBTQ+ policies. Similarly, a lesser-known "mini rescue" in Oakland that same year saw an attempt to bridge the church's stance with the experiences of its LGBTQ+ members.

A History of Tension and Change

The church's relationship with LGBTQ+ issues has been one of both denial and slow acceptance. In 2015, the exclusion policy declared same-sex marriage as grounds for apostasy, a move criticized for its severe stance on LGBTQ+ members and their families. However, the church reversed this policy in 2019, marking a significant change in its approach. Despite such progress, there remains a substantial divide within the church, especially given the rise of ultra-conservative views. The Mormon Stories Podcast reflects the ongoing tension as it questions whether current church efforts genuinely embody goodwill or are merely a response to increasing pressure.

The Conversation Between Bird and Schilaty