John and Margi Dehlin on the Hot Seat! - Patrick Mason Pt. 3 | Ep. 1658
The Dehlin Reckoning: When Dialogue Meets Accountability in Mormon Criticism
When John and Margi Dehlin sat down with religious scholar Patrick Mason for a candid three-part conversation, they confronted a question that has haunted Mormon criticism for over a decade: Can the architects of faith deconstruction still claim the moral high ground? The Mormon Stories podcast episode featuring John and Margi Dehlin on the hot seat reveals a tension at the heart of how the LDS Church's most visible critics understand their own influence, credibility, and accountability, a tension that deserves serious examination.
For those unfamiliar with the landscape, John Dehlin has operated at the center of post-Mormon culture since 2008, when he launched Mormon Stories as a platform for voices questioning official Church narratives. Over fifteen years, the podcast has shaped how thousands of people process faith transitions. Margi, his wife, has been equally visible in that ecosystem. Yet in this recent dialogue with Mason, a BYU religious studies professor and accomplished author, the Dehlins faced something they don't always encounter in their own spaces: substantive pushback from someone within the scholarly sphere who respects their experience while challenging their methods.
Background: The Evolution of Mormon Criticism
The post-Mormon movement exists on a spectrum. On one end sit scholars and questioners who remain affiliated with the Church; on the other, those who've built entire careers and communities around critiquing it. John Dehlin occupies a unique position, he's neither purely academic nor purely activist. He's a therapist by training who lost his orthodox faith in 2001 but remained actively engaged with the Church for fourteen more years before going public with his doubts and eventually facing excommunication in 2015.
This timeline matters. Dehlin's later public pivot toward sharper criticism created a narrative problem: How could someone genuinely invested in the Church for so long suddenly become one of its most visible antagonists? The answer he provided in the Mason interview, that he was always looking for honest dialogue and only escalated when dialogue failed, positions his work as reactive rather than intentional.